For a second I wondered if they were bringing back demise, which seems problematic from a lore perspective, but then they pretty much revealed ganon. I am curious as to how the events of the previous game lead to ganon's revival. You'd think it would be impossible for a few hundred years at least but it seems like they were thoroughly ineffective at dealing with him.
For a second I wondered if they were bringing back demise, which seems problematic from a lore perspective, but then they pretty much revealed ganon. I am curious as to how the events of the previous game lead to ganon's revival. You'd think it would be impossible for a few hundred years at least but it seems like they were thoroughly ineffective at dealing with him.
But... demise was supposedly deleted and ganondorf, his hatred/curse is what endures. It's a bit weird that demise could return even if the master sword is destroyed. I suppose maybe time travel shenanigans and more timelines could do the trick though, there's evidence that to begin with the BOTW game is a combination of all timelines... As there are references to all games.
But... demise was supposedly deleted and ganondorf, his hatred/curse is what endures. It's a bit weird that demise could return even if the master sword is destroyed. I suppose maybe time travel shenanigans and more timelines could do the trick though, there's evidence that to begin with the BOTW game is a combination of all timelines... As there are references to all games.
That's not exactly right, he was defeated and his remains were sealed within the master sword to decay. He did indeed curse them with the endless cycle of incarnations of his hatred (Ganon(dorf)), but given his remains were sealed in the sword, I think there's the chance something fucky happens with the sword. We've already seen that in BOTW it could break which I always thought odd, so maybe this ends up being a case of having to reforge the sword in a callback to Skyward Sword?
That's not exactly right, he was defeated and his remains were sealed within the master sword to decay. He did indeed curse them with the endless cycle of incarnations of his hatred (Ganon(dorf)), but given his remains were sealed in the sword, I think there's the chance something fucky happens with the sword. We've already seen that in BOTW it could break which I always thought odd, so maybe this ends up being a case of having to reforge the sword in a callback to Skyward Sword?
The master sword doesn't break, rather it temporarily loses it's power (at least that's the in game logic iirc). Which is not too weird considering how many games there are where you go through great lengths to restore the sword. In wind waker it lost it's luster or something to that effect, in tp it's strengthened by sols... I suppose it is the first time in a game where the sword is destroyed though. I wonder if perhaps this games tackles a bit of a plot hole from skyward sword. In SS demise is destroyed in the present by having the goddess statue fall on him. Which causes ghirahim to travel back in time where he can release past demise. So what we have is:
1.- Present demise was destroyed. Present ghirahim travels to the past and becomes past demise's sword.
2.- Past demise was defeated and sealed within the master sword. The master sword which contains past demise's body is taken to the future.
3.- Past ghirahim presumably is left intact in a new timeline.
I don't really want to discuss this because I'm afraid of spoilers/spoiling, but I need to get it out of my system.
Time travel, right? The whole main "mystery" is related to time travel and it's painfully obvious the moment you leave the tutorial zone. And time travel is so hard to pull off in any form of fiction. I really, really hope they do it well. Because otherwise the game is so amazing this far.
I don't really want to discuss this because I'm afraid of spoilers/spoiling, but I need to get it out of my system.
Time travel, right? The whole main "mystery" is related to time travel and it's painfully obvious the moment you leave the tutorial zone. And time travel is so hard to pull off in any form of fiction. I really, really hope they do it well. Because otherwise the game is so amazing this far.
Hmm, yeah, but LoZ is no stranger to that. The games of the main series almost invariably feature it.
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Ok, I've played the game a fair bit, it's quite good. Personally I find the whole construction thing a bit tedious. I also feel like I've barely grasped weapon fusions even though I've covered at least half of the story (I haven't read any guides so I am not sure of how much there is ahead). I still have to figure out what actually makes for more efficient fusions. My favorite weapon fusion so far, though it has subpar damage, is spear spear. The range on the thing is absurd.
On the timeline:
Just to be clear, I might be missing some story elements. What I have pieced together is this (though the conclusions might change)
- Ganondorf in this game probably isn't demise. He simply looks like him due to having his powers amplified by the tear.
- The game's flashback events probably happen after skyward sword. As in, queen sonia is probably SS zelda's descendant.
- It's a bit of a letdown that SS zelda an link don't become the founders of hyrule as we know it.
I have played for a while now, becoming quite a fanatic. I'm not a good engineer, but I do love the things I have to create. I know there is always some wacky solutions for everything, but I do enjoy trying to figure out the "correct" way.
And I already have my favorite fusion, almost any sword with Blue Lizalfos horn.
Damnnnn so much to do in the Kingdom. Goodbye summer :')
Sharing kkck's sentiment on the tediousness of contructing shit. However, the Addison poll riddles I enjoy a lot. For weapon fusion, I am very stingy with my monster parts, because I havent unlocked the main fairies yet.
Progression wise I think I am not very far got the wind, fire and water vows, have been exploring the northern, eastern sides of the map so far, not the hyroglyphs yet though, where I am guessing the story pieces are behind.
But is very nice game, familiar yet adventures, known yet strange. Definitely not DLC size, pretty overwhelming even.
Damnnnn so much to do in the Kingdom. Goodbye summer :')
Sharing kkck's sentiment on the tediousness of contructing shit. However, the Addison poll riddles I enjoy a lot. For weapon fusion, I am very stingy with my monster parts, because I havent unlocked the main fairies yet.
Progression wise I think I am not very far got the wind, fire and water vows, have been exploring the northern, eastern sides of the map so far, not the hyroglyphs yet though, where I am guessing the story pieces are behind.
But is very nice game, familiar yet adventures, known yet strange. Definitely not DLC size, pretty overwhelming even.
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