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Hi guys so here are our night actions tab and thought process for the game.

First the tab:



Following the "level up" idea from our theme we wanted to give players the opportunity to level up throughout the game thanks special objects they would find in dungeons. However finding many level up ideas for every role was complicated. Also given our small number of players we decided to make everyone start as vanilla to give the mechanics more impact and push players to go into dungeons. We simplified the dungeons's objects idea by deciding that it would be simpler to just have dungeons that allowed to level up (because there were strong monsters in it that gave lots of xp lol) and dungeons that didn't.

Dungeons were as followed
D1 dungeonsD2 dungeonsD3 dungeonsD4 dungeons
Busan (dud)Pekin (secondaries)New York (roles)Sao paulo (dud)
Seoul (roles)Tokyo (roles)Bamako (buff)Valencia (dud)
Daegu (roles)Singapour (roles)Canberra (dud)Tunis (roles)

On D1 we put a dud dungeon but didn't expect HALF the players to choose it, + one who forgot to send + one of the four remaining died D1. So only 3 people with a role on N1. We expected it to be at least 5 or 6.
Which is why we had put a necromancer and an apprentice in the role list thinking they would have much to do and choose from as the game went on. (They didn't 😭)

As for the roles, we made a list beforehand and randomized it with the player list. Thus, everyone had a role waiting for them, all they had to do was enter the right dungeons.
This is what each of you was bound to get:
Asako - Necromancer
DD - Sane spy
Erinyes - hider
Brandish µ - prosecutor
Gajeel - Insane apprentice (who then became sane)
Lady pompom - Sane doc
GrySun - Paranoid det

Belserion - M. Det
Baka Taichou - Escort
Shad - Poisoner
We also had ideas for second level ups for each. But appart from Gajeel no one leveled up twice.

On D2 rather than a dud we put a secondaries dungeon which is weaker but still useful. We had a thought up list of secondaries and randomized the list with the player that entered the dungeon. No premade association player x secondary.

On D3 we once again put a dud and wanted to have fun by adding a buff dungeon that allowed for a double action. It may seem too OP, but in Mafia game there is game, and we wanted to see how all the double actions would cross each other and maybe create interesting game situations. In the end the buff was only useful to mafia.

On D4 with such few players remaining and everyone having a role or a secondary, only one dungeon was legit (and no one entered it).

That's it for the explanations we wanted to give, feel free to ask any question. Any constructive feedback or criticism is accepted !

(Also my wording might make it seem like we took decisions on the go as the game went on, but no, most of it was thought out before the game started and then we navigated and adjusted things as phases passed.)

 

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someone is lying for sure
Yes, just that Gajeel has no one to confirm him and as far as we know, Shad didn't lie about his targets of N3 at least.
 

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You can't be serious. This man openly lied for 3 days, creating confusion, and indirectly killing Brandish by claiming Hider. There was no point in hiding being a "doctor" when digital, a spy, is still alive and considering how small the game is.

I targetted Shad last night, in case digital would still be alive (turned out to be true), and decided to target me in order to show you I am the apprentice. Didn't want to risk any of the other ones because knowing Shad, he would have used that against me.

You're asking yourself why there hasn't been any kill in the past two nights? Shouldn't you ask yourself what's forcing the mafia to use a killing action every night instead? Because in reality, nothing is. He's playing the long game, and it's going to pay off.
- I lied about my role 1 day, why did you say 3 days?
- brandish confirmed Erinyes, that a good use of persecutor, otherwise today we will still be talking about her.
- if I didn't hide that I was a doctor i would be dead today.
- your concern is that I will win the game by never killing? I'm the doctor, I will 100% die next, unless mafia has a strongman, since they didn't use it today to kill the spy, they can only get it from next donjon, very unlikely, but let cross that road when we get to it.

So unless you change your vote pompom, we lost. Asako has some weird thoughts about me thinking I'm a mafia for being the first vote on Belserion (?), so I'm going to get her vote anyway, so it's going to be up to you three.

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nah this is beyond goofy, I'm not going to experience another such game I've already had my share
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@digitaldude you've been playing this game for a decade now. you should know that nothing's forcing mafia to use their kill action. How the hell am I more suspicious than him when I clearly voted for Belserion AND Baka (well this one was more obvious). What did he do? He voted for sakura (when it was obvious), lied, and talked a lot.
- Your vote on Bel was a placeholder, you couldn't move it after you cast it, the argument that Sakura was obvious scum applies to you as well, you voted her last with DD.
- My contribution day 1 you can go read me again, I was openly saying bel is a good lynch, I didn't vote DD when he went for Bel even tho I had good reasons to if I was mafia.

How come you went in the same dungeon than me and got same upgrade than mine while you just said above, you lied about that point (getting same upgrade when entering same dungeon)?
I know just as much about the mechanic as you do.
Yesterday I didn't go to Tokyo and nobody else had similar roles so I assumed it was false theory, today we get the same power, doesn't change the fact that yesterday I was just agreeing with you to not have to reveal my role.
 

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@digitaldude did you went into a dungeon, did you get any kind of upgrade like being able to use ability twice ? or a new role. (secondary) or wtv ?

@Gajeel No dungeon or upgrade ?
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TBh I dont think 2 of us could get the same upgrade to use an ability twice, given the number of players remaining, it would be too OP.
 

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If you want Shad to be dead, why change vote to pompom, though? Am I missing something? It sound you're shooting at all sides to not die. Indeed Shad lied, but DD targeted him and confirmed his results, meanwhile you have 2 times apprentice and tried to learn from mafia (at the same time as voting for that mafia). What do you think makes more sense? That he lied and is a mafia or that you, unconfirmed lied and is a mafia?
Because Shad and Asako are most likely going to vote for me (don't even know Asako's thought process, but you saw yesterday). That leaves you three. I can't vote.

You're not thinking outside the box Pom /: ... I killed Beslerion, it is true that I tried to become mafia, but you know it's impossible. they both died. You should read what I wrote. I am not trying to not die, I am trying to win
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@Gajeel No dungeon or upgrade ?
Canberra, no PM received
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Yes, just that Gajeel has no one to confirm him and as far as we know, Shad didn't lie about his targets of N3 at least.
h e d i d n o t u s e a k i l l i n g a c t i o n
 

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@Gajeel if theres anyone lying pliz help me to find it can you share as much as info as you have. I m not sure of anything rn, and i dont want to mislynch, we cant afford it. I dont like that votes are piling before we solved everything.

@digitaldude did you really targeted Shad ? and did you really got that result ?

Im not confident about anything, Pompom chan not going in a dungeon is weird too.
 

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- your concern is that I will win the game by never killing? I'm the doctor, I will 100% die next, unless mafia has a strongman, since they didn't use it today to kill the spy, they can only get it from next donjon, very unlikely, but let cross that road when we get to it.
My concern is that you're disrespecting the remaining town by playing the long game and not killing at night. You are not a doctor.

- Your vote on Bel was a placeholder, you couldn't move it after you cast it, the argument that Sakura was obvious scum applies to you as well, you voted her last with DD.
Your argument about Belserion makes no sense. I could move it. Tell me in the first place why a mafia would put a placeholder on a teammate on DAY 1 in such a small game. You should know that's there's no good reason because you didn't do it Shadis lol
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@Gajeel if theres anyone lying pliz help me to find it can you share as much as info as you have. I m not sure of anything rn, and i dont want to mislynch, we cant afford it. I dont like that votes are piling before we solved everything.
It's Shad. I don't have concrete info because I'm just an apprentice, but I've shared my thoughts in my previous posts this phase. If I had to summarize it up in one sentence though, it's that no one is obliging a mafia to use a killing action at night.
 

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TBh I dont think 2 of us could get the same upgrade to use an ability twice, given the number of players remaining, it would be too OP.
- How useful was your double action with hider?
- The fact that I got the same power as you is proven by DD's results.
- the fact that I couldn't level up on day 1 by going to the wrong donjon is the reason why Gry died, mechanic wasn't fair to town that day, the last mafia isn't gonna tell us his level up, so I would rather wait until game ends up call mechanic too OP.

Your argument about Belserion makes no sense. I could move it. Tell me in the first place why a mafia would put a placeholder on a teammate on DAY 1 in such a small game. You should know that's there's no good reason because you didn't do it Shadis lol
With 3 mafia it isn't a small game in that sense, Asako or somebody else made this point.

Of course you can change your vote, but then you will be lynched D2.
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My concern is that you're disrespecting the remaining town by playing the long game and not killing at night. You are not a doctor.
This is wierd, you do realize I did use my action? I'm not claiming passive.
 

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With 3 mafia it isn't a small game in that sense, Asako or somebody else made this point.

Of course you can change your vote, but then you will be lynched D2.
Exactly. Then why even put the vote on her in the first place...? exactly.
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This is wierd, you do realize I did use my action? I'm not claiming passive.
Yes I do, but it is not a town doctor action. That has been my point this phase.
 

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Im not confident about anything, Pompom chan not going in a dungeon is weird too.
I already explained why I didn't go, I was out most of the day, came back and got sick, my head felt like it would legit split apart at any minor sound and I was feeling extremely nauseous and unwell, to sum up, I wasn't in conditions to be pondering deeply about mafia game and forgot about the dingeon mechanics, 'cause my default action was to reread posts and see who was suspicious and I did that.
 

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Day 1 votes

digitaldude x2 - Erinyes #45, Baka Taichou #56
Belserion x4 - Gajeel #3, digitaldude #62, GrySun #69 , Lady pompom #71
Erinyes x0 - GrySun #48
Gajeel x1 - Brandish µ #33,Lady pompom #54
Lady pompom x1 - Belserion #60
Asako x1 - Shad #63


Day 2 votes
Asako x2 - Penalty vote, Erinyes #107
Baka Taichou x5 - Brandish µ #91, Lady PomPom #133, Shad #134, Gajeel #137, digitaldude #139
Erinyes x1 - Asako #126
Digitaldude x 1- Baka Taichou #130


Ok Bels votes : last vote was pompomchan : she did change last second, it has 0 consequence, Bel was already dead could be a "look Im innocent" vote
Gajeel vote could be a random one, but he didnt tried to save her, at leastn, while he could have.


Baka's votes : ladypompom is 2nd, when she cast her vote Asa had 2 votes upon her. It could be anything, its hard to say. gajeel votes could be just "look Im ionnocent votes" too; she was already doomed.

Based solely on that , I might be wrong, but I think the last mafia/scum one could be anyone between shad, pompom, gajeel, but leaning towards : gajeel or Pompom.




I already explained why I didn't go, I was out most of the day, came back and got sick, my head felt like it would legit split apart at any minor sound and I was feeling extremely nauseous and unwell, to sum up, I wasn't in conditions to be pondering deeply about mafia game and forgot about the dingeon mechanics, 'cause my default action was to reread posts and see who was suspicious and I did that.
Yeah got it Pomchan and I hope you re feeling better. :)
But that s not a reason for me to ignore it, you re among the suspects too, to me rn. And I dont like how you sounded happy to see the prosecutor action, aka knowing we will lose an important role.
 

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So unless you change your vote pompom, we lost. Asako has some weird thoughts about me thinking I'm a mafia for being the first vote on Belserion (?), so I'm going to get her vote anyway, so it's going to be up to you three .
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nah this is beyond goofy, I'm not going to experience another such game I've already had my share
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@digitaldude you've been playing this game for a decade now. you should know that nothing's forcing mafia to use their kill action. How the hell am I more suspicious than him when I clearly voted for Belserion AND Baka (well this one was more obvious). What did he do? He voted for sakura (when it was obvious), lied, and talked a lot.
I agree and in that decade I have seen that strategy used exactly once by hakukeiten.
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@Gajeel if theres anyone lying pliz help me to find it can you share as much as info as you have. I m not sure of anything rn, and i dont want to mislynch, we cant afford it. I dont like that votes are piling before we solved everything.

@digitaldude did you really targeted Shad ? and did you really got that result ?

Im not confident about anything, Pompom chan not going in a dungeon is weird too.
Yeah thats the result I got.
 

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I know it's crazy, but what the odds, do you think that someone got SS upgrade or secondary role , like on N2 and that actually the 0 kills are now illusions ? is it possible you think or too OP ? I don't believe it, but just saying it could be an option.
 

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FYI: I have a coding test to do for a job I'm applying to, my deadline is in 8 hours.

I'm following up and open to any discussion but I will start taking 30 minutes to focus on work between MG sessions.
 

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last vote was pompomchan : she did change last second, it has 0 consequence
That's true. Would she really put a vote on sakura when it's a 4-way tie on Day 2 if she was mafia though?
 

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FYI: I have a coding test to do for a job I'm applying to, my deadline is in 8 hours.

I'm following up and open to any discussion but I will start taking 30 minutes to focus on work between MG sessions.
Ok thxs for letting us know.

Last time asking, please, it's not late to tell the truth or any other info you havent shared yet, did you really go to Bamako and coincidentally got same upgrade ? to say it frankly I dont believe it, after your previous lie.
 

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But that s not a reason for me to ignore it, you re among the suspects too, to me rn. And I dont like how you sounded happy to see the prosecutor action, aka knowing we will lose an important role.
I just distrusted you, you had same claim as shad which made you suspicious too (and I also suspected Shad), just that at that moment Shad looked less suspicious than you and since Asako would be lynched, I was convinced the game would end there too with her being last mafia or you.
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That's true. Would she really put a vote on sakura when it's a 4-way tie on Day 2 if she was mafia though?
No, even if you want to think Bel's vote was inconsequent because she was dead anyways, Baka taichou's vote does not make sense in this scenario, i could have pushed for anyone else's lynch that was being suspected that day and that's what a mafia should've done then.
 

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Ok thxs for letting us know.

Last time asking, please, it's not late to tell the truth or any other info you havent shared yet, did you really go to Bamako and coincidentally got same upgrade ? to say it frankly I dont believe it, after your previous lie.
I honestly don't get why you would ask this question.
- I don't have any other info I didn't share yet.
- DD spied on me and got the result that my targets are DD and Pom, how else can he get this result if I didn't get the same power up from bamako.
- I went to Bamako because I saw that Hermit was from Ivory Cost,so I was hoping he will have the mind set of Africa Unite!
- I also picked Bamako because first night the weak donjon was number 3, second night it was number 2, so 3rd night I assumed it will be n1.
- My lie was needed, I can't claim doc and survive, the only reason I would claim is if people wanted to lynch me that day.
 

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At this point, with the vote count, i wonder if we're chasing a 3rd party and not a mafia... :notlikethis
 

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That's true. Would she really put a vote on sakura when it's a 4-way tie on Day 2 if she was mafia though?
Idk, if sakura slipped or was too obvious it's possible she decided to dissociate from her, throwing a mate under the bus happens a lot. but if pompom is really mafia, I believe she probably cast her vote on sakura, with the prospect of changing it, but at some point maybe she couldnt anymore without looking too fishy. That if she is mafia. she might not. Idk. I want to give her the benefit of the doubt but... Im clueless rn.

What do you think about Shad dungeon's upgrade ?

I just distrusted you,
But, DD confirmed my actions, so why distrusting when the spy confirmed me, pretty much ?
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At this point, with the vote count, i wonder if we're chasing a 3rd party and not a mafia... :notlikethis
Yeah I mentioned SS bc i wondered at some point if Shad's hider claim was not actually Shapeshifter, maybe Im overthinking
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I went to Bamako because I saw that Hermit was from Ivory Cost,so I was hoping he will have the mind set of Africa Unite!
I dont distrust that, but the fact that you got same upgrade as me.
 
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