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Hi guys so here are our night actions tab and thought process for the game.

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Following the "level up" idea from our theme we wanted to give players the opportunity to level up throughout the game thanks special objects they would find in dungeons. However finding many level up ideas for every role was complicated. Also given our small number of players we decided to make everyone start as vanilla to give the mechanics more impact and push players to go into dungeons. We simplified the dungeons's objects idea by deciding that it would be simpler to just have dungeons that allowed to level up (because there were strong monsters in it that gave lots of xp lol) and dungeons that didn't.

Dungeons were as followed
D1 dungeonsD2 dungeonsD3 dungeonsD4 dungeons
Busan (dud)Pekin (secondaries)New York (roles)Sao paulo (dud)
Seoul (roles)Tokyo (roles)Bamako (buff)Valencia (dud)
Daegu (roles)Singapour (roles)Canberra (dud)Tunis (roles)

On D1 we put a dud dungeon but didn't expect HALF the players to choose it, + one who forgot to send + one of the four remaining died D1. So only 3 people with a role on N1. We expected it to be at least 5 or 6.
Which is why we had put a necromancer and an apprentice in the role list thinking they would have much to do and choose from as the game went on. (They didn't 😭)

As for the roles, we made a list beforehand and randomized it with the player list. Thus, everyone had a role waiting for them, all they had to do was enter the right dungeons.
This is what each of you was bound to get:
Asako - Necromancer
DD - Sane spy
Erinyes - hider
Brandish µ - prosecutor
Gajeel - Insane apprentice (who then became sane)
Lady pompom - Sane doc
GrySun - Paranoid det

Belserion - M. Det
Baka Taichou - Escort
Shad - Poisoner
We also had ideas for second level ups for each. But appart from Gajeel no one leveled up twice.

On D2 rather than a dud we put a secondaries dungeon which is weaker but still useful. We had a thought up list of secondaries and randomized the list with the player that entered the dungeon. No premade association player x secondary.

On D3 we once again put a dud and wanted to have fun by adding a buff dungeon that allowed for a double action. It may seem too OP, but in Mafia game there is game, and we wanted to see how all the double actions would cross each other and maybe create interesting game situations. In the end the buff was only useful to mafia.

On D4 with such few players remaining and everyone having a role or a secondary, only one dungeon was legit (and no one entered it).

That's it for the explanations we wanted to give, feel free to ask any question. Any constructive feedback or criticism is accepted !

(Also my wording might make it seem like we took decisions on the go as the game went on, but no, most of it was thought out before the game started and then we navigated and adjusted things as phases passed.)

 

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I think it makes the most sense that gajeel's votes are 1st in bel because he saw no consequence of her dying until last min me and Gry, and fourth in Baka Taichou vecause he saw no hope for her at that point.

But, DD confirmed my actions, so why distrusting when the spy confirmed me, pretty much ?
I did say later I trusted you more, and I was not the prosecutor Erin. You're reading it as me distrusting you = Prosecutor dying, no I didn't use any prosecutor role on you. I voted Asako, I was wrong about her being mafia, I even made a post telling between you and Asako mys suspicions on you were more cleared:

Ifeel awfully sick, but I will try checking Asako’s posts, Erin claim sounds believable, but I would consider her still being a poisoner or so and delaying the kill to feign hider role, at this point I’m more inclined to vote koko.
I wasn't happy because a townie would die, but because with this regardless if you or Brandish happened to die, we have a confirmed townie and we can go on and suspect the right people in case the game doesn't end.
 

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I dont distrust that, but the fact that you got same upgrade as me.
Can you try to explain this further?

What is the issue exactly?
 

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but if pompom is really mafia, I believe she probably cast her vote on sakura, with the prospect of changing it,
I don't feel like this is something any mafia would do. you don't put a vote on a teammate with the idea of changing it afterward right before the day ends. that's 100% incriminating yourself once that person dies as a mafia. Shad has been using the same argument against me, but it's just silly.

What do you think about Shad dungeon's upgrade ?
I haven't seen any role twice in this game with the exception of vanilla townie, that's all I can say lol
 

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that 2 players got the opportunity to use their actions twice when there's only 5 players remaining.
- Donjons are RNG, you have to choose between 3.
- For hider this is a downgrade
- It looks OP because 2 mafia died D1 and D2, if DD got double action with spy it will also look OP.

I still don't get you but I think I repeated myself enough.
 

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I haven't seen any role twice in this game with the exception of vanilla townie, that's all I can say lol
Then how do you explain DD's results? He'd need to be in cahoots with Shad for the targeting to be validated.
 

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Then how do you explain DD's results? He'd need to be in cahoots with Shad for the targeting to be validated.
I think I've made myself more than clear on that point already pompom :( I'll ask you too: what is forcing a mafia to use a killing action at night?
 

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You're basically saying here it's unlikely Shad got 2 results and same upgrade as Erin (that we just confirmed is town) even though DD our only spy just confirmed his targeting. Does that make sense to you?
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I think I've made myself more than clear on that point already pompom :( I'll ask you too: what is forcing a mafia to use a killing action at night?
And tell me, which other action would mafia use?
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Why would they stall for time?
 

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I haven't seen any role twice in this game with the exception of vanilla townie, that's all I can say lol
no no you didnt get it, my upgrade tonight was that I could use my role twice, but he came out with the same upgrade ?

I wasn't happy because a townie would die, but because with this regardless if you or Brandish happened to die, we have a confirmed townie and we can go on and suspect the right people in case the game doesn't end.
Yeah I know, but I feel it was too early, look the situation we are in now. But yeah getting confirmed is not a bad thing, and might have been useful for detective sanity , if only we had one. :s
 

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Even if you think "OK, they'll stall for time", why do this 2 nights straight? In this logic, he could have killed DD N2 with no doctors around, tell me: why would he not kill the ONLY guy that could've seen his targets? It would be between you and him still, because both your claims were iffy and Erin was confirmed. He could sway Erin or you to vote me too in that case, but all I see is you shading me and him because you can no longer shade Erin.
 

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And tell me, which other action would mafia use?
Their mafia action. Mafia Detective (there's already one though), Mafia Doctor, or an upgrade that might not in the original pool of mafia roles considering the mechanics.
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no no you didnt get it, my upgrade tonight was that I could use my role twice, but he came out with the same upgrade ?
Yeah, I haven't seen any role twice in the game yet (even sickly), so I find it fishy that he got the same as yours (he stated it after you)
 

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Yeah I know, but I feel it was too early, look the situation we are in now. But yeah getting confirmed is not a bad thing, and might have been useful for detective sanity , if only we had one.
Now mafia can't shade you, at least. That's a start.

Their mafia action. Mafia Detective (there's already one though), Mafia Doctor, or an upgrade that might not in the original pool of mafia roles considering the mechanics.
Among all those, we know it can't be a mafia noble, it can't be a pirate (everyone used their roles so far and Erin was confirmed with a role), it could be abomb or burden, but none of those are much of an upgrade and if he's a doc, and again, Gajeel, why would he not just kill DD N2? Give me a plausible explanation. Why would mafia not kill twice in a row if they could?
 

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Even if you think "OK, they'll stall for time", why do this 2 nights straight? In this logic, he could have killed DD N2 with no doctors around, tell me: why would he not kill the ONLY guy that could've seen his targets? It would be between you and him still, because both your claims were iffy and Erin was confirmed. He could sway Erin or you to vote me too in that case, but all I see is you shading me and him because you can no longer shade Erin.
Because he doesn't fear him if he plays the long game.
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You can bet that digital is dying tonight though
 

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I'm sorry, but if I was mafia, I'd get rid of either Erin or DD at lightning speed. And if I wanted to look less sus, then maybe use sickly instead of killing like I did in other games.
 

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Mafia doctor is to save other mafia, what the point of using it if that mafia (assuming it's not a tp) is alone.
He's not saving anyone with it, he's just using it. That still counts as an action. There's no TP in such a small game don't worry about it
 

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no no i dont believe that mafia didnt try to kill, to me it's a fail, someone was protected or blocked. Likely DD protected or the killer blocked. shad being the only claiming doc makes sense. at least for that.
 

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I'm sorry, but if I was mafia, I'd get rid of either Erin or DD at lightning speed. And if I wanted to look less sus, then maybe use sickly instead of killing like I did in other games.
Listen, do whatever you want at this point pompom lol. I'll take the hit and we'll lose. At this point, my interest in the game has plummeted. If this game can serve as a lesson to you like it did to Asako and Co in the GrySun/Juviii lover game, then I'll take the lynch and then take a mafia game break. Unless you're the last mafia, then I would be very impressed and congratulate you with open arms
 

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Unless mafia can kill 2, even if you are lynched and DD dies, we still have Erin and me to finish the game.
 
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