Discussion One Piece Power Level Discussion Thread

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6. Mihawk's rank within the story
7. Law having CoC currently.
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[Darklord#10]

""Zoro has already taken his Haki a step above the handful of the very strongest.
And Roger has only managed to reach that level.

Roger's haki is a step behind Zoro's haki and not even Zoro's haki is good enough for Mihawk's level yet.
Zoro needs to take his haki to the level where it surpasses Mihawk's haki in order to beat him.

And despite having haki in a higher level than Roger, it is still not enough for Mihawk.
It is simple, Roger's haki was too weak. It never reached the point to surpass the original rank of the sword.

He was carried by his sword instead of surpassing it and lifting the sword to a higher level.
Zoro is ruining yall agendas, all the time. He is the question that yall don't have any answers for.
So yes, Mihawk is the greatest haki master in the show because even the guy with haki stronger than Roger's cant surpass Mihawk's, yet."-courtesy of WG

 

[669ako]

""Zoro has already taken his Haki a step above the handful of the very strongest.
And Roger has only managed to reach that level.

Roger's haki is a step behind Zoro's haki and not even Zoro's haki is good enough for Mihawk's level yet.
Zoro needs to take his haki to the level where it surpasses Mihawk's haki in order to beat him.

And despite having haki in a higher level than Roger, it is still not enough for Mihawk.
It is simple, Roger's haki was too weak. It never reached the point to surpass the original rank of the sword.

He was carried by his sword instead of surpassing it and lifting the sword to a higher level.
Zoro is ruining yall agendas, all the time. He is the question that yall don't have any answers for.
So yes, Mihawk is the greatest haki master in the show because even the guy with haki stronger than Roger's cant surpass Mihawk's, yet."-courtesy of WG

What is this shit.

You are overate zoro thats much.

 

[Fox666]

That means anyone who can keep up with Kaido speed like Big Mom can easily blitz Lucci too. Big Mom who can keep up with Kaido speed got blitzed by Katakuri.

I don't understand your obsession in defending Katakuri as having speed above the Yonko... Big Mom didn't move at all from the table, and was charging Zeus and Prometheus

 

[BlackTiger]

I don't understand your obsession in defending Katakuri as having speed above the Yonko... Big Mom didn't move at all from the table, and was charging Zeus and Prometheus

This is a dumb question. That's like asking what's the obsession with making Kaido more durable than admirals. There is no obsession. It's debunking misinformation that you're trying to spread in this thread.

The question should be what's your obsession with making everyone and their Mother as fast or faster than WCI Snakeman? Where is this obsession coming from? I don't remember people claim Moria/Absalom/Oars Jr/Zombie Ryuma was faster than Enies Lobby Gear 2 but here for some reason King who cannot even land a hit on Zoro without Enma distraction is faster than Dressrosa Boundman let alone WCI Snakeman

If chapter 1042 where Snakeman blitzes Kaido didn't exist yeah. Unfortunately, that chapter does exist and Snakeman is shown much faster than Kaido which makes Katakuri much faster than Kaido too. You can blame Oda why did he make Kaido got blitzed by Snakeman who is relative to Katakuri in speed.

I'll just make it simple for you: Snakeman hype=Katakuri hype

Katakuri distance from Luffy was much farther than Big Mom distance from Luffy but Katakuri hit Luffy first. Katakuri hits much faster than Big Mom. What so hard to understand?

So when Big Mom was charging Zeus to hit Luffy, Katakuri who was much farther than Luffy hit Luffy first. When Big Mom was charging Zeus, Katakuri already hit Luffy despite he's much farther than Luffy. Isn't it a blitz?

Just how many attacks can Katakuri do when Big Mom is charging Zeus? the speed diffeence is huge between the 2 of them.

Just imagine if there is a fly 1 cm from you. You try to hit the fly but me who is 100 cm from the fly hits the fly first which makes me much faster than you.