Special Move Howling

[mathematicianrcg]

I think it was more than just seeing it. They trained together for like a month, playing against each other and as a pair.

Nope, Irie says in 327 that it's not a combo but rather all Synchro, which may mean that any Synchro pair can get this Howling, too.

Wait. You mean high level synchro will result to "Existence Boundary"?

Or can it be different kind of howling thru synchro depending on players' skills?

Or skills of the individuals in the pair is irrelevant?

 

[Hardy]

It was 337 not 327. My bad.

Wait. You mean high level synchro will result to "Existence Boundary"?

Or can it be different kind of howling thru synchro depending on players' skills?

Or skills of the individuals in the pair is irrelevant?

It's seemingly irrelevant for Existence Boundary. Irie points out that their individual skills DIDN'T get Howling. Instead, their doubles support was so strong that the moment they achieved Synchro a Howling was formed.

This is why I'm voting for them in the other thread, by the way.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

It was 337 not 327. My bad.



It's seemingly irrelevant for Existence Boundary. Irie points out that their individual skills DIDN'T get Howling. Instead, their doubles support was so strong that the moment they achieved Synchro a Howling was formed.

This is why I'm voting for them in the other thread, by the way.

Interesting. Maybe Julio/Silva can achieve that too. While Mares and Seda will have a normal howling.

I wanna see if Ohmagari and Kintarou can have too. Damn, the possibilities in doubles really excites me than in singles. lmao

 

[Ganonslayer101]

Interesting. Maybe Julio/Silva can achieve that too. While Mares and Seda will have a normal howling.

I wanna see if Ohmagari and Kintarou can have too. Damn, the possibilities in doubles really excites me than in singles. lmao

Which is a shame
Because Howling and Synchro, the premier doubles super skills exist only against Germany.
Despite all the cool pairs Japan had prior to the Germany rematch, we never got another Howling.

Also wasn't Synchro hyped as necessary to enter pro doubles? Why didn't Bertie/ Dankmar have it? Or at least address it?

 

[-Ken-]

Also wasn't Synchro hyped as necessary to enter pro doubles? Why didn't Bertie/ Dankmar have it? Or at least address it?

It say "you can not be the best in the world". You can probably still be a pro. Just that you can't reach the top of the pro world without syncho at least.

 

[Ganonslayer101]

It say "you can not be the best in the world". You can probably still be a pro. Just that you can't reach the top of the pro world without syncho at least.

Ah my mistake. Still you think the #1 Pair in the tournament would have it.
It's occurring to me that Bertie/ Dankmar wouldn't look as bad if that moniker wasn't used.

 

[-Ken-]

Ah my mistake. Still you think the #1 Pair in the tournament would have it.
It's occurring to me that Bertie/ Dankmar wouldn't look as bad if that moniker wasn't used.

Yeah, but pro level in the tournament are actually very mix. For example, Bismarck is the team #2 prior to QP upgrade after which it's debatable. That means that Bismarck is already pro level and is better than the two pros at least in singles (Although he seem to want to go pro very soon now). QP before the upgrade may be either team #3 behind Bismarck and Volk or #5 behind the pros as well. By extension, people who can beat or evenly play with Bismarck and QP are also pro level (aka Tanegashima and Oni, and by another extension Zeus).

That could just means doubles level in the tournament are lower than doubles pro top level in the entire world. And that's actually quite normal considering the double pros pair are the single pro level pair I've really seen minus Duke and Niou pair.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Yeah, but pro level in the tournament are actually very mix. For example, Bismarck is the team #2 prior to QP upgrade after which it's debatable. That means that Bismarck is already pro level and is better than the two pros at least in singles (Although he seem to want to go pro very soon now). QP before the upgrade may be either team #3 behind Bismarck and Volk or #5 behind the pros as well. By extension, people who can beat or evenly play with Bismarck and QP are also pro level (aka Tanegashima and Oni, and by another extension Zeus).

That could just means doubles level in the tournament are lower than doubles pro top level in the entire world. And that's actually quite normal considering the double pros pair are the single pro level pair I've really seen minus Duke and Niou pair.

Hoping Julio/Silva will show that they are Pro level doubles pair too at least

But that will mean Ochi/Mouri too by extension if they had a close match.

Unless, Julio/Silva dominate the match.

 

[Tavore]

Wonder if Atobe and Romeo played doubles could they produce a howling?

 

[Hardy]

Wonder if Atobe and Romeo played doubles could they produce a howling?

What Howling would that be?

Irie seemed confident that he'd get Howling with Atobe, likely something to do with Insight. He just didn't want to play doubles.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Atobe and Yukimura can have an howling.
Both can mess up or control the future.

Atobe and Irie can have an Insight howling.

Atobe and Romeo. I cannot think of something that will produce an howling?

Stamina Howling???

Because both of them has long endurance in long games?

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What Howling would that be?

Irie seemed confident that he'd get Howling with Atobe, likely something to do with Insight. He just didn't want to play doubles.

Oh, now I have an idea.

If there are Howling that can be formed more by combining a G10 Member and Top Japan Msers.

Tokugawa - Yukimura (Sixth Sense)

That's the only one we know.

But other potentials:

Tanegashima/Akaya (failed experiment howling though in Semis)

Ohmagari/Kintarou (Maybe they need it to beat Mares/Seda howling)

What if the intended Howling hope coaches expected to prosper from Tane/Akaya will be done by Ohmagari/Kintarou instead???
(Ohmagari is a defender. Kintarou is an offensive player.)

Atobe/Irie (obvious reasons)

Byodoin/Akutsu ( 8C + 8C = 16 Consciousness Howling?)

Oni/Fuji (Random Pairing) (But Fuji always partnered with a Power Player in doubles like Kawamura and Duke)

Maybe they can produce a unique howling.

 

[Ganonslayer101]

Atobe and Yukimura can have an howling.
Both can mess up or control the future.

Atobe and Irie can have an Insight howling.

Atobe and Romeo. I cannot think of something that will produce an howling?

Stamina Howling???

Because both of them has long endurance in long games?

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Oh, now I have an idea.

If there are Howling that can be formed more by combining a G10 Member and Top Japan Msers.

Tokugawa - Yukimura (Sixth Sense)

That's the only one we know.

But other potentials:

Tanegashima/Akaya (failed experiment howling though in Semis)

Ohmagari/Kintarou (Maybe they need it to beat Mares/Seda howling)

What if the intended Howling hope coaches expected to prosper from Tane/Akaya will be done by Ohmagari/Kintarou instead???
(Ohmagari is a defender. Kintarou is an offensive player.)

Atobe/Irie (obvious reasons)

Byodoin/Akutsu ( 8C + 8C = 16 Consciousness Howling?)

Oni/Fuji (Random Pairing) (But Fuji always partnered with a Power Player in doubles like Kawamura and Duke)

Maybe they can produce a unique howling.

Arguably a lot of the MS/HS pairs for Japan have been trying to force Howlings.
Ochi/ Oishi put 2 doubles specialists built around controlling pressure and pace.
Tono/ Akaya was clearly trying to connect Executions and Devil
Duke / Gin was likely a power focused howling attempt
We know Tane and Akaya was an attempt at an all-out attack and defense howling that i think we will see from either Ohmagari/ Kintarou or from Julio/ Silva

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Arguably a lot of the MS/HS pairs for Japan have been trying to force Howlings.
Ochi/ Oishi put 2 doubles specialists built around controlling pressure and pace.
Tono/ Akaya was clearly trying to connect Executions and Devil
Duke / Gin was likely a power focused howling attempt
We know Tane and Akaya was an attempt at an all-out attack and defense howling that i think we will see from either Ohmagari/ Kintarou or from Julio/ Silva

I wonder next World Cup. If the Top Msers Can have howling with each other. Since they will be Hsers by then.

For Ex:

Fuji's Fireball and Sanada's Blaze

 

[Ganonslayer101]

I wonder next World Cup. If the Top Msers Can have howling with each other. Since they will be Hsers by then.

For Ex:

Fuji's Fireball and Sanada's Blaze

Almost certainly. Synchro has largely been overshadowed, so developing Howlings will be key for Japan's doubles going forward

 

[mathematicianrcg]

HOT TAKE:

Kintarou, Mares, and Sedah are all great singles players.

But Kintarou/Ohmagari and Mares/Seda are not top tier doubles pairs.

The reason is simple. They dont have howling.

They do not even have synchro. Well, technically Mares/Sedah can, but that isa one man synchro, so Mares will not be able to use her snipers when she is hypnotized under synchro.

Kintarou/Ohmagari seemed a weak pair because of Ohmagari pulling down. And he doesnt even contribute to a synchro or howling with Kin.

Meaning to say,

ANOTHER HOT TAKE:

If Julio/Silva and Ochi/Mouri can produce howling then It can be argued that Julio/Silva is stronger as a PAIR than Mares/Seda,

Same with Ochi/Mouri being a stronger pair than Kintarou/Ohmagari.

Having said all of that

Tanegashima/Akaya defeated one of the strongest howling in existence boundary. And Tane/Akaya doesnt have any howling or synchro too. lmao

What Howling would that be?

Irie seemed confident that he'd get Howling with Atobe, likely something to do with Insight. He just didn't want to play doubles.

Yeah.

I love how Hsers knows who they can share howling with.

For ex.

Volk knows he can have howling with Tezuka by just seeing the circle mark of tezuka zone.

Irie stating he and atobe can have an howling.

And it seems both Bismarck and Volk knows the possibility of offense defense howling potential of tanegashima/akaya pair.

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Imo the Ultimate Whirlpools (was that the name?) are the strongest, yeah. Literally kills whoever is on the other side of the court.

My Updated Ranking of Howlings

1. Infinite Tornado - ( Volk's Whirlpool + Tezuka's Zone)

2. Existence Boundary - ( Siegfried + Bismarck high level synchro forces a unique howling)

3. Sixth Sense - ( Tokugawa's Premonition + Yukimura's Yips )

4. Creation - (Duke's Destruction + Camus' Love)

5. Satelite Perspective - (Schneider's Gigant (Giant) + Bertie's AI)


What do you think of the order?

 

[Ganonslayer101]

Love to see Medanore play next.

Is he left handed or right handed? Is he ambidextrous? Or he have 2 Personalities with different dominant hands, and with different playstyles?

Maybe he have 2 kijins who can howling with each other?

Imagine 2 Kijins which complement each other.

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HOT TAKE:

Kintarou, Mares, and Sedah are all great singles players.

But Kintarou/Ohmagari and Mares/Seda are not top tier doubles pairs.

The reason is simple. They dont have howling.

They do not even have synchro. Well, technically Mares/Sedah can, but that isa one man synchro, so Mares will not be able to use her snipers when she is hypnotized under synchro.

Kintarou/Ohmagari seemed a weak pair because of Ohmagari pulling down. And he doesnt even contribute to a synchro or howling with Kin.

Meaning to say,

ANOTHER HOT TAKE:

If Julio/Silva and Ochi/Mouri can produce howling then It can be argued that Julio/Silva is stronger as a PAIR than Mares/Seda,

Same with Ochi/Mouri being a stronger pair than Kintarou/Ohmagari.

Having said all of that

Tanegashima/Akaya defeated one of the strongest howling in existence boundary. And Tane/Akaya doesnt have any howling or synchro too. lmao

You disproved your own point. You can beat howling and synchro without either. Akaya and Tane did it. Howling nor Synchro are required to be a top tier doubles pair.
Hell, Howling has a bad showing if you think about it. All but one Howling has lost so far.
Sixth Sense was beaten by Volk
Creation was beaten by Bertie/ Dankmar
Satellite Perspective was beaten by Duke/ Niou
Existence Boundary was beaten by Akaya/ Tane
Only thing that hasn't been broken is Warp, and that's because it was effectively off screen.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

You disproved your own point. You can beat howling and synchro without either. Akaya and Tane did it. Howling nor Synchro are required to be a top tier doubles pair.
Hell, Howling has a bad showing if you think about it. All but one Howling has lost so far.
Sixth Sense was beaten by Volk
Creation was beaten by Bertie/ Dankmar
Satellite Perspective was beaten by Duke/ Niou
Existence Boundary was beaten by Akaya/ Tane
Only thing that hasn't been broken is Warp, and that's because it was effectively off screen.

wait,

Arent creation and satelite perspective faced off each other???

Why are you counting both?

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You disproved your own point. You can beat howling and synchro without either. Akaya and Tane did it. Howling nor Synchro are required to be a top tier doubles pair.
Hell, Howling has a bad showing if you think about it. All but one Howling has lost so far.
Sixth Sense was beaten by Volk
Creation was beaten by Bertie/ Dankmar
Satellite Perspective was beaten by Duke/ Niou
Existence Boundary was beaten by Akaya/ Tane
Only thing that hasn't been broken is Warp, and that's because it was effectively off screen.

But yeah. You are right.

Howling have a bad record.

Even the strongest howling Infinite Tornado was beaten By Byodouin. And Byo literally have no aura.

8c might be really good though.

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You disproved your own point. You can beat howling and synchro without either. Akaya and Tane did it. Howling nor Synchro are required to be a top tier doubles pair.

As for synchro, it is not really too much hax for doubles.

Even Oshitari/Shisido can beat a synchro from Golden Pair

Expected more wiining results from howling though

 

[Hardy]

wait,

Arent creation and satelite perspective faced off each other???

Why are you counting both?

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But yeah. You are right.

Howling have a bad record.

Even the strongest howling Infinite Tornado was beaten By Byodouin. And Byo literally have no aura.

8c might be really good though.

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As for synchro, it is not really too much hax for doubles.

Even Oshitari/Shisido can beat a synchro from Golden Pair

Expected more wiining results from howling though

Niou had to stop using Creation cause Bertie had it perfectly countered.

Oshitari/Shishido cannot beat synchro Golden Pair, where did you get that from?

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Niou had to stop using Creation cause Bertie had it perfectly countered.

Oshitari/Shishido cannot beat synchro Golden Pair, where did you get that from?

I only watched POT in anime.

Otori/Shishido beat Oishi/Kikumaru right in quarterfinals? (Seigaku VS Hyotei Part 2)

Where even synchronized, they cannot return Otori's Scud serve

PS: I meant Otori, not oshitari

 

[Hardy]

I only watched POT in anime.

Otori/Shishido beat Oishi/Kikumaru right in quarterfinals? (Seigaku VS Hyotei Part 2)

Where even synchronized, they cannot return Otori's Scud serve

PS: I meant Otori, not oshitari

In the anime Oishi actually returned the Scud serve LOL.

But they were better than Ootori/Shishido (they walked over Marui-Jackal, after all). They only lost because of Oishi's injury.