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I was watching Nisenmonogatari and noticed that there is a lot of fanservice, depending on how you like being serviced. There's even more of the stuff than in Bakemonogatari and even though it was tasteful in the beginning it gets a bit more risqué as the series goes on. I was surprised where in one episode there was a girl who couldn't have been any older than ten or eleven was completely in the buff and then took a bath with the sixteen year-old protagonist.
The defense is that this is supposed to be OK because the girl is really a 700 year old vampire who isn't in her real form. Without that context however, there are some pedophilic undertones and in other episodes the incestuous themes are borderline suffocating. I don't want to paint Nisenmonogatari in a terrible light because even though it deals with a lot of..., unconventional elements, it plays them to a degree that is supposed to be funny because it's absurd.
If these sorts of elements were unique to just this anime I wouldn't make a stink about it. But certain manga like Dance In the Vampire Bund has adults and teens engaged in inappropriate sexual relations with children and the fact that the vampiric lead is a little girl who is either stark naked or wearing a G-string in most panels doesn't help matters. Again, we're expected to not pay it much heed because this vampire is also hundreds of years old but...
Far back as most people can remember, teens having sex has always been taboo in America. We all know it happens all the time just as we all know there are a thousand teens going at it right as you're reading this. We know it happens and we claim we don't like to glorify but we do, and we do it all the time. When we look at the American Pie movies it's easy to see that not only are teens portrayed having sex but it's glorified. So too is the case with Project X that while not nearly as vulgar as the American Pie movies has its naughty bits. I remember a few years ago Rob Zombie made his own version of Halloween but I couldn't tell if I was watching a slasher flick glorifying cult followed killer Michael Myers or if I was watching a porno with under aged kids.
Of course we know that all these actors and actresses are (typically) well above the legal age but the in-world context of teens having sex is depicted quite often. We the viewers are seeing events within the context of those worlds and some people might get the idea that "Yeah those were some hot 15 and 16 year olds in that movie. I want to bang a couple myself. Think I'll swing by the high school."
Now, I saw Alexa Vega in Repo The Genetic Opera (Alexa Vega, the girl from the Spy Kids movies and needless to say she's all grown up, been that way for a couple years) where she plays the 17 year-old daughter of Nathan Wallace, a Repoman played by Anthony Stewart Head. I'm watching Repo right now and yeah I'd hit that. I'm watching and I don't think "Oh yeah, Alexa Vega, 17 years old, I want to hit that." Rather, I'm watching it and I'm thinking "Oh yeah, Alexa Vega, silky smooth pale skin, long dark hair, silky smooth pale skin, Gothic attire, silky smooth pale skin, she's wearing so much black and I want to do her." Keep in mind the fact that Alexa Vega was like 23 or 24 when she made this movie so I like to think that my attraction is a healthy one.
Y'know, cause I like Gothic chicks. But that's just me. And not everyone has tastes as healthy as mine. Omg look at what she wears to bed. Now THAT'S must see T.V. Has anyone else seen this movie? If I wasn't already stalking several women I'd steal the cake mix before I steal the bowl. I forgot where I was going with this.
In movies, anime, video games, and manga we see that negotiation and compromise are thrown out the window in favor of more direct solutions. Run into issues with law enforcement in GTA and Saints Row? Blow their heads off. When Jimmy and Timmy (who aren't all the way there to begin with because their dad is too busy banging broads in his Ford truck and mom is at her weekly feminist meetings) think they can stop bullying by doing a re-enactment of Columbine things get real.
We actually have literature, movies, television shows that glorify sociopaths and serial killers. I mean look at Uchiha Itachi. So many people herald Uchiha Itachi as a hero but in real life, people who fit Itachi's psychological profile are most likely to kill your family, and your dog, and make you watch while they do it before killing you. Jiraiya seems like a great teacher but people are locked up every day for the kinds of things that we tend to find humorous. If you walk into the girls locker room at your university and tell them you're just doing research you're going to jail.
Now of course I'm not going to defend real world monsters and say something like society is at fault for creating them, but I'm quite sure there are some outliers out there who would be a lot less fucked up if society and the media we're exposed to was a bit more ethical, decent, and any other term that died at the start of the 21st Century.
EDIT: It's 11:23 PM and I just saw an ad for American Reunion, yet another American Pie movie. Funny how life works out.
The defense is that this is supposed to be OK because the girl is really a 700 year old vampire who isn't in her real form. Without that context however, there are some pedophilic undertones and in other episodes the incestuous themes are borderline suffocating. I don't want to paint Nisenmonogatari in a terrible light because even though it deals with a lot of..., unconventional elements, it plays them to a degree that is supposed to be funny because it's absurd.
If these sorts of elements were unique to just this anime I wouldn't make a stink about it. But certain manga like Dance In the Vampire Bund has adults and teens engaged in inappropriate sexual relations with children and the fact that the vampiric lead is a little girl who is either stark naked or wearing a G-string in most panels doesn't help matters. Again, we're expected to not pay it much heed because this vampire is also hundreds of years old but...
Far back as most people can remember, teens having sex has always been taboo in America. We all know it happens all the time just as we all know there are a thousand teens going at it right as you're reading this. We know it happens and we claim we don't like to glorify but we do, and we do it all the time. When we look at the American Pie movies it's easy to see that not only are teens portrayed having sex but it's glorified. So too is the case with Project X that while not nearly as vulgar as the American Pie movies has its naughty bits. I remember a few years ago Rob Zombie made his own version of Halloween but I couldn't tell if I was watching a slasher flick glorifying cult followed killer Michael Myers or if I was watching a porno with under aged kids.
Of course we know that all these actors and actresses are (typically) well above the legal age but the in-world context of teens having sex is depicted quite often. We the viewers are seeing events within the context of those worlds and some people might get the idea that "Yeah those were some hot 15 and 16 year olds in that movie. I want to bang a couple myself. Think I'll swing by the high school."
Now, I saw Alexa Vega in Repo The Genetic Opera (Alexa Vega, the girl from the Spy Kids movies and needless to say she's all grown up, been that way for a couple years) where she plays the 17 year-old daughter of Nathan Wallace, a Repoman played by Anthony Stewart Head. I'm watching Repo right now and yeah I'd hit that. I'm watching and I don't think "Oh yeah, Alexa Vega, 17 years old, I want to hit that." Rather, I'm watching it and I'm thinking "Oh yeah, Alexa Vega, silky smooth pale skin, long dark hair, silky smooth pale skin, Gothic attire, silky smooth pale skin, she's wearing so much black and I want to do her." Keep in mind the fact that Alexa Vega was like 23 or 24 when she made this movie so I like to think that my attraction is a healthy one.
Y'know, cause I like Gothic chicks. But that's just me. And not everyone has tastes as healthy as mine. Omg look at what she wears to bed. Now THAT'S must see T.V. Has anyone else seen this movie? If I wasn't already stalking several women I'd steal the cake mix before I steal the bowl. I forgot where I was going with this.
In movies, anime, video games, and manga we see that negotiation and compromise are thrown out the window in favor of more direct solutions. Run into issues with law enforcement in GTA and Saints Row? Blow their heads off. When Jimmy and Timmy (who aren't all the way there to begin with because their dad is too busy banging broads in his Ford truck and mom is at her weekly feminist meetings) think they can stop bullying by doing a re-enactment of Columbine things get real.
We actually have literature, movies, television shows that glorify sociopaths and serial killers. I mean look at Uchiha Itachi. So many people herald Uchiha Itachi as a hero but in real life, people who fit Itachi's psychological profile are most likely to kill your family, and your dog, and make you watch while they do it before killing you. Jiraiya seems like a great teacher but people are locked up every day for the kinds of things that we tend to find humorous. If you walk into the girls locker room at your university and tell them you're just doing research you're going to jail.
Now of course I'm not going to defend real world monsters and say something like society is at fault for creating them, but I'm quite sure there are some outliers out there who would be a lot less fucked up if society and the media we're exposed to was a bit more ethical, decent, and any other term that died at the start of the 21st Century.
EDIT: It's 11:23 PM and I just saw an ad for American Reunion, yet another American Pie movie. Funny how life works out.