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Here's my giant rant about the war in general. I tried breaking it up into slightly easier to digest piece but idk whether it makes much of a difference. If I add new thoughts/sources to this behemoth, I'll put them in with a new text color.
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Difference in Power:
I’m going to preface this holy wall of text with a whole-hearted opinion of mine:
As things are, I don’t think the Black Order stands a snowball’s chance in hell against the Noah/Earl/Akuma as things are right now. I’ll explain why I think so below and what I think needs to change or happen in order for the “good side” to win.
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Going off from Marie’s and Bookman’s statements in chapter 157, it seems the Earl not only has the strength to annihilate the order on a whim but also seems to be keeping it alive for some reason.
The question: Why?
Well, chapter 158 answers that: the Earl intends to keep the Order alive and so that it can desperately search for the Heart and therefore make it difficult for the Heart to remain hidden (since the Earl is pretty convinced that the Heart has “awoken”, which may also mean that the Heart has found an accommodator).
The question then turns into: Who is the Heart and what has it been doing for ~7000 years instead of fighting the Noah (especially when only the Earl and Road were alive, 35 years ago)?
At the moment, we only know a few things about the Heart:
1) If it is destroyed, all other Innocence are destroyed simultaneously
2) Apocryphos protects it and seems to be able to telepathically communicate with it
As for the Heart’s accommodator, your guess is as good as mine. It may be someone we know, might be a new character, or may even be a current exorcist disguised as a lesser innocence. We also don’t know how exactly Apocryphos works: Is the Cardinal 100% innocence, or did a sentient innocence possess the Cardinal completely and took over (in the same way Skinn and Tyki were physically taken over by their respective Noahs)? In addition, we also don’t know whether there is only one Apocryphos (the Cardinal), or if there are others. After all, we still do not know much about the upper echelons of the Order and Central. As it is, we do not have enough information to answer many questions related to the Heart so we’re pretty much free to theorize within what we do know.
In fact, Apocryphos and the Heart aside, there are quite a few mysteries surrounding the “layman” innocence as well:
1) How Tsukikami manifests itself (at this point, this guy seems like the key to understanding innocence, imho). As well as some mysteries involving Maria…
2) What exactly triggers crystal-type innocence and why it is different from breaking Critical Point (and whether Crowley is technically crystal-type and whether parasite-types can even turn crystalline anyway).
3) What the heck is up with Innocence acting on their own: protecting Lenalee, protecting Allen, trying to get Allen absorbed by Apocryphos…
4) And why have the above phenomena never manifested themselves before the current time. After all, the generals have been around at least long enough to break Crit. Pt, but none have ever turned or encountered crystalline form.
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As we have seen, the Earl and Noah are much too strong compared to the order, and with 12/13 awakened now, the annihilation of the Black Order would be a piece of cake. Why? Because while we still don’t know all of the Noah’s abilities, we’ve already seen that it takes ~5 exorcists (plus minus a general) to take on one Noah (in their Noah, not human, form) and that’s without any Akuma backup. Factoring in that Timothy is a kid and can’t do any more than possess a Level 2, Miranda and Hevlaska are 100% non-combatant type, and Cross is dead as far as we know, the Order’s army looks pretty thin. And that’s assuming Allen and Lavi will continue to fight for the Order, and Kanda survives long enough.
So next question: What is the Noah’s weak spot, anyway?
We know dark matter and Innocence are polar opposites, but the scale of strength has been tipped towards the Noah/Akuma from the get-go. So what exactly does the order need to do to beat the Noah once and for all?
Answer: Actually, we have no idea.
So far, the Order has been focusing on simply hunting for Innocence, finding accommodators and destroying Akuma. Which is good and all, but no one has been able to provide an answer to the questions “How do we win?”
It has been presumed by Komui that finding the Heart holds the answer, but from what we know as of chapter 218, the Heart isn’t too concerned with sharing the way to win the war. Apocryphos, too, has remained hidden for a good 7000 years (in fact, he had no problem with taking out arguably one of the strongest exorcists, Cross). Meaning that both have literally watched their fellow innocence get found, hunted and destroyed for at least the last 100 years. Logically, this means that with every day that passes, the Order/the Heart lose potential accommodators and therefore soldiers, while the Noah family have the Earl who can spawn Akuma with (what seems like) ease, and the Noah themselves that are essentially immortal. Hell, even the destruction of the egg didn’t set them back too much and now we have Level 4s actively springing up everywhere. Actually, looking at what Road says at the beginning of chapter 93 makes me thing that in the same way that the Noah are the “sacrificial lambs” for the Earl, the other, lesser innocence are also “fodder” for the Heart. Except for some reason there’s a finite number of innocence.
All things considered, this whole war comes off as a lost cause.
Here’s why:
There are 109 pieces of Innocence. Regarding this number, there is only one thing we don’t know: Whether the Heart and Apocryphos are part of this number or not. Out of these 109 there are:
76 known innocences:
15 Have been destroyed
The status of 3 is currently unknown
And the rest have either been activated or stored within Hevlaska or with a General
That leaves 33 pieces that have yet to be found.
Judging by the ease with which Tyki destroyed Allen’s innocence, I’m assuming that it doesn’t take much effort for a Noah to destroy one. On the flip side, Exorcists with a synchronization rate under 100% stand virtually no chance against a Level 4 (even Cross was thrown for a loop), not to mention a Noah. Basically, there’s a rift in power so great between the two sides, that in my opinion, the Order has no chance of successfully taking on the Noah family without having at least another 10 generals at least. And that excludes the Crystal-types, since as far as we know, their synchronization rate has not changed (ie: Lenalee has yet to surpass 100%). Frankly, this rift in power is far too big – especially when you factor in the Noah’s Akuma army, the Akuma virus (that will take out everyone except Allen and Crowley and maybe Lau Shimin and Timothy).
Like, no joke, the Order doesn’t stand a chance.
And then, I realized that we still have no clue of how to really, seriously, and permanently kill a Noah. Kanda took out Skinn Boric, but the Earl expects the Noah of wrath to awaken once more quite soon (ch. 187) and Allen’s Exorcism sword did do some damage but ultimately failed against Tyki Mikk, and although Apocryphos’s single punch seems to have knocked Road out, she’s not dead. So far, the one person who has done the greatest damage to the Noah has been the 14th/Neah - the damage he did to the Noah memory kept any of the 11 Noah he killed from awakening for 35 years. So… basically, the innocence seems pretty useless. At the very least, neither we, nor the Order have any idea of how to kill the Noah family permanently.
But I do have a few theories:
1) The Earl is “the Heart” of the Noah – kill him and you’ll kill the others, permanently.
2) There’s no way to kill the Noah, since all humans carry the original genes. So the Order will have to keep hunting Noah as they are awakened and take them out, for the rest of eternity. Or…
3) Destroy humanity.
There’s not much info to support or disprove points 1 and 2, but number 3 is something I can play with.
In chapter 187 we found out that after the fateful battle between the Earl and the Heart 7000 years ago, the 13 Noah restarted humanity and therefore all of humanity carries the Noah genes. Which subsequently allows the Noah to reawaken whenever one of them dies. As far as we know, Innocence does not seem to have a permanent affect on the Noah’s rebirthing cycle (b/c Skinn), and so I am led to believe that unless the Earl equals the Noahs’ “Heart”, there is only one way to permanently kill the Noah (and Noah genes): destroy humanity completely and start anew. This theory fits into my concern about the lack of action taken by the Heart and Apocryphos in the last 7000 years. Especially since the whole Noah clan was down only to 2 members 35 years ago and at their most vulnerable. Therefore, I’m led to believe that while the Earl is keeping the Order alive to search for the Heart, the Heart is letting the Earl continue humanity’s massacre in order to purge the world of humans that allow Noah to be reborn from generation to generation. I’m not quite sure how exorcists fit into this plan (since, as humans, they should still technically carry Noah genes), but given that Innocence seems to have failed to put a stop to Noah reincarnation, this is the only other solution I can think of. Unless of course, there’s option number 4:
4) The relationship between the two sides is (supposed to be) an infinite loop.
Either way you spin it (based on current information) the Noah reincarnation circle cannot be broken while humans remain alive. Which isn’t quite fair when you compare the millions of humans alive during the 19th century (not to mention Akuma), and only 109, destructible pieces of innocence capable of battling the Noah family. That seems too much like a one-sided fight, doesn’t it?
Unless, of course, Innocence isn’t actually, completely destructible.
What if Innocence cannot be destroyed by Noah in the same way Noah memory cannot be completely wiped from humanity’s genes by Innocence? This theory seems a bit farfetched until you factor in the actions taken by Allen’s innocence. Of course, there’s still always a chance that Crown Clown is special or even the Heart, but I find its actions in chapter 56 and onwards to be quite odd. Allen’s Innocence was destroyed by Tyki, but it turned into mist instead of “dying” and plugged up Allen’s heart (protecting him) and then waited for him to come around and resynchronize with it. Same for Lenalee’s and Kanda’s innocence (to a degree). The innocences waited around until their accommodators could resynchronize. Which makes me think that (in order to even out the power rift between Noah and Innocence) either the Heart is capable of creating new Innocence or Innocence is not completely destroyed by Dark matter, but rather shatters and fixes itself over time, waiting for an accommodator to come along. Meaning that all of the innocences destroyed thus far may not be completely out of the picture. This theory is plausible since Hevlaska cannot vouch for the destruction of Innocence, and since the order has yet to collect all 109 pieces, it’s possible they haven’t realized that Innocence cannot be truly destroyed (except via the Heart). This is essentially the only theory I can think of that plugs the power gap between the two sides, as well as fits into the story, plot wise.
The rift in power is too great – there has to be a plug. If there isn’t, the Noah can easily waltz into the Order, take out Hevlaska, and humanity will no longer stand a chance with the 33 remaining innocence (even if they found the Heart), in the face of immortal Noah and Akuma that can evolve to who knows what level.
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Take it as you well, but this is the conclusion I've come to. I have some other rants coming up about the 14th/Earl/Mana etc., but they'll have to wait for a bit since I'm all pooped out from this behemoth.
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Edit: I've reached the conclusion that the whole of DGM is a really bad game of Telephone and he said/she said. Hoshino is going to have a lot of explaining to do.
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Difference in Power:
I’m going to preface this holy wall of text with a whole-hearted opinion of mine:
As things are, I don’t think the Black Order stands a snowball’s chance in hell against the Noah/Earl/Akuma as things are right now. I’ll explain why I think so below and what I think needs to change or happen in order for the “good side” to win.
---
Going off from Marie’s and Bookman’s statements in chapter 157, it seems the Earl not only has the strength to annihilate the order on a whim but also seems to be keeping it alive for some reason.
The question: Why?
Well, chapter 158 answers that: the Earl intends to keep the Order alive and so that it can desperately search for the Heart and therefore make it difficult for the Heart to remain hidden (since the Earl is pretty convinced that the Heart has “awoken”, which may also mean that the Heart has found an accommodator).
The question then turns into: Who is the Heart and what has it been doing for ~7000 years instead of fighting the Noah (especially when only the Earl and Road were alive, 35 years ago)?
At the moment, we only know a few things about the Heart:
1) If it is destroyed, all other Innocence are destroyed simultaneously
2) Apocryphos protects it and seems to be able to telepathically communicate with it
As for the Heart’s accommodator, your guess is as good as mine. It may be someone we know, might be a new character, or may even be a current exorcist disguised as a lesser innocence. We also don’t know how exactly Apocryphos works: Is the Cardinal 100% innocence, or did a sentient innocence possess the Cardinal completely and took over (in the same way Skinn and Tyki were physically taken over by their respective Noahs)? In addition, we also don’t know whether there is only one Apocryphos (the Cardinal), or if there are others. After all, we still do not know much about the upper echelons of the Order and Central. As it is, we do not have enough information to answer many questions related to the Heart so we’re pretty much free to theorize within what we do know.
In fact, Apocryphos and the Heart aside, there are quite a few mysteries surrounding the “layman” innocence as well:
1) How Tsukikami manifests itself (at this point, this guy seems like the key to understanding innocence, imho). As well as some mysteries involving Maria…
2) What exactly triggers crystal-type innocence and why it is different from breaking Critical Point (and whether Crowley is technically crystal-type and whether parasite-types can even turn crystalline anyway).
3) What the heck is up with Innocence acting on their own: protecting Lenalee, protecting Allen, trying to get Allen absorbed by Apocryphos…
4) And why have the above phenomena never manifested themselves before the current time. After all, the generals have been around at least long enough to break Crit. Pt, but none have ever turned or encountered crystalline form.
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As we have seen, the Earl and Noah are much too strong compared to the order, and with 12/13 awakened now, the annihilation of the Black Order would be a piece of cake. Why? Because while we still don’t know all of the Noah’s abilities, we’ve already seen that it takes ~5 exorcists (plus minus a general) to take on one Noah (in their Noah, not human, form) and that’s without any Akuma backup. Factoring in that Timothy is a kid and can’t do any more than possess a Level 2, Miranda and Hevlaska are 100% non-combatant type, and Cross is dead as far as we know, the Order’s army looks pretty thin. And that’s assuming Allen and Lavi will continue to fight for the Order, and Kanda survives long enough.
So next question: What is the Noah’s weak spot, anyway?
We know dark matter and Innocence are polar opposites, but the scale of strength has been tipped towards the Noah/Akuma from the get-go. So what exactly does the order need to do to beat the Noah once and for all?
Answer: Actually, we have no idea.
So far, the Order has been focusing on simply hunting for Innocence, finding accommodators and destroying Akuma. Which is good and all, but no one has been able to provide an answer to the questions “How do we win?”
It has been presumed by Komui that finding the Heart holds the answer, but from what we know as of chapter 218, the Heart isn’t too concerned with sharing the way to win the war. Apocryphos, too, has remained hidden for a good 7000 years (in fact, he had no problem with taking out arguably one of the strongest exorcists, Cross). Meaning that both have literally watched their fellow innocence get found, hunted and destroyed for at least the last 100 years. Logically, this means that with every day that passes, the Order/the Heart lose potential accommodators and therefore soldiers, while the Noah family have the Earl who can spawn Akuma with (what seems like) ease, and the Noah themselves that are essentially immortal. Hell, even the destruction of the egg didn’t set them back too much and now we have Level 4s actively springing up everywhere. Actually, looking at what Road says at the beginning of chapter 93 makes me thing that in the same way that the Noah are the “sacrificial lambs” for the Earl, the other, lesser innocence are also “fodder” for the Heart. Except for some reason there’s a finite number of innocence.
All things considered, this whole war comes off as a lost cause.
Here’s why:
There are 109 pieces of Innocence. Regarding this number, there is only one thing we don’t know: Whether the Heart and Apocryphos are part of this number or not. Out of these 109 there are:
76 known innocences:
15 Have been destroyed
The status of 3 is currently unknown
And the rest have either been activated or stored within Hevlaska or with a General
That leaves 33 pieces that have yet to be found.
Judging by the ease with which Tyki destroyed Allen’s innocence, I’m assuming that it doesn’t take much effort for a Noah to destroy one. On the flip side, Exorcists with a synchronization rate under 100% stand virtually no chance against a Level 4 (even Cross was thrown for a loop), not to mention a Noah. Basically, there’s a rift in power so great between the two sides, that in my opinion, the Order has no chance of successfully taking on the Noah family without having at least another 10 generals at least. And that excludes the Crystal-types, since as far as we know, their synchronization rate has not changed (ie: Lenalee has yet to surpass 100%). Frankly, this rift in power is far too big – especially when you factor in the Noah’s Akuma army, the Akuma virus (that will take out everyone except Allen and Crowley and maybe Lau Shimin and Timothy).
Like, no joke, the Order doesn’t stand a chance.
And then, I realized that we still have no clue of how to really, seriously, and permanently kill a Noah. Kanda took out Skinn Boric, but the Earl expects the Noah of wrath to awaken once more quite soon (ch. 187) and Allen’s Exorcism sword did do some damage but ultimately failed against Tyki Mikk, and although Apocryphos’s single punch seems to have knocked Road out, she’s not dead. So far, the one person who has done the greatest damage to the Noah has been the 14th/Neah - the damage he did to the Noah memory kept any of the 11 Noah he killed from awakening for 35 years. So… basically, the innocence seems pretty useless. At the very least, neither we, nor the Order have any idea of how to kill the Noah family permanently.
But I do have a few theories:
1) The Earl is “the Heart” of the Noah – kill him and you’ll kill the others, permanently.
2) There’s no way to kill the Noah, since all humans carry the original genes. So the Order will have to keep hunting Noah as they are awakened and take them out, for the rest of eternity. Or…
3) Destroy humanity.
There’s not much info to support or disprove points 1 and 2, but number 3 is something I can play with.
In chapter 187 we found out that after the fateful battle between the Earl and the Heart 7000 years ago, the 13 Noah restarted humanity and therefore all of humanity carries the Noah genes. Which subsequently allows the Noah to reawaken whenever one of them dies. As far as we know, Innocence does not seem to have a permanent affect on the Noah’s rebirthing cycle (b/c Skinn), and so I am led to believe that unless the Earl equals the Noahs’ “Heart”, there is only one way to permanently kill the Noah (and Noah genes): destroy humanity completely and start anew. This theory fits into my concern about the lack of action taken by the Heart and Apocryphos in the last 7000 years. Especially since the whole Noah clan was down only to 2 members 35 years ago and at their most vulnerable. Therefore, I’m led to believe that while the Earl is keeping the Order alive to search for the Heart, the Heart is letting the Earl continue humanity’s massacre in order to purge the world of humans that allow Noah to be reborn from generation to generation. I’m not quite sure how exorcists fit into this plan (since, as humans, they should still technically carry Noah genes), but given that Innocence seems to have failed to put a stop to Noah reincarnation, this is the only other solution I can think of. Unless of course, there’s option number 4:
4) The relationship between the two sides is (supposed to be) an infinite loop.
Either way you spin it (based on current information) the Noah reincarnation circle cannot be broken while humans remain alive. Which isn’t quite fair when you compare the millions of humans alive during the 19th century (not to mention Akuma), and only 109, destructible pieces of innocence capable of battling the Noah family. That seems too much like a one-sided fight, doesn’t it?
Unless, of course, Innocence isn’t actually, completely destructible.
What if Innocence cannot be destroyed by Noah in the same way Noah memory cannot be completely wiped from humanity’s genes by Innocence? This theory seems a bit farfetched until you factor in the actions taken by Allen’s innocence. Of course, there’s still always a chance that Crown Clown is special or even the Heart, but I find its actions in chapter 56 and onwards to be quite odd. Allen’s Innocence was destroyed by Tyki, but it turned into mist instead of “dying” and plugged up Allen’s heart (protecting him) and then waited for him to come around and resynchronize with it. Same for Lenalee’s and Kanda’s innocence (to a degree). The innocences waited around until their accommodators could resynchronize. Which makes me think that (in order to even out the power rift between Noah and Innocence) either the Heart is capable of creating new Innocence or Innocence is not completely destroyed by Dark matter, but rather shatters and fixes itself over time, waiting for an accommodator to come along. Meaning that all of the innocences destroyed thus far may not be completely out of the picture. This theory is plausible since Hevlaska cannot vouch for the destruction of Innocence, and since the order has yet to collect all 109 pieces, it’s possible they haven’t realized that Innocence cannot be truly destroyed (except via the Heart). This is essentially the only theory I can think of that plugs the power gap between the two sides, as well as fits into the story, plot wise.
The rift in power is too great – there has to be a plug. If there isn’t, the Noah can easily waltz into the Order, take out Hevlaska, and humanity will no longer stand a chance with the 33 remaining innocence (even if they found the Heart), in the face of immortal Noah and Akuma that can evolve to who knows what level.
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Take it as you well, but this is the conclusion I've come to. I have some other rants coming up about the 14th/Earl/Mana etc., but they'll have to wait for a bit since I'm all pooped out from this behemoth.
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Edit: I've reached the conclusion that the whole of DGM is a really bad game of Telephone and he said/she said. Hoshino is going to have a lot of explaining to do.
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